I get this question asked a lot, so instead of re-typing my answer every time someone asks, I'm just going to answer it here and copy-and-paste my answer (or send them the link to this post) the next time I'm asked.

Man, should have done this earlier! Would have saved me a lot of time!

Question:

Why do you do reverse grip bench presses instead of regular bench presses like a normal person?

Answer:

I started doing reverse grip bench presses because a regular grip was causing me pain.

First it was shoulder pain that radiated down both of my arms from regular bench presses.

Shoulder Pain

Even this magical bright light couldn't cure my shoulder pain

It was probably shoulder impingement. As for grip width, my pinkies were on the bar markings so it wasn't very wide.

Forearm PainI narrowed my grip, tucked in my elbows and tried "bending the bar". This more or less fixed the shoulder pain problem, but it ended up giving me pain in my forearms (forearm splints maybe?). I felt the forearm pain in what seems to be in between the bones of the forearms, the ulna and radius.

I think the forearm pain from bench presses was from tucking the elbows in while gripping the bar hard on the descent. Gripping the bar with an overhand grip naturally makes the elbows flare out a bit. Forcing the elbows in to the sides of the body naturally makes the hand want to rotate (ie. supination). So trying to do both at the same time (tuck in elbows while keeping a tight grip with hands aligned with the bar), the strain is going to go somewhere, and that went to my forearms.

At lighter loads, there wasn't much pain, but as soon as the weight went up, the pain in both my shoulders and/or forearms would shut everything down and I would instantly lose my strength. I frequently missed reps because of pain.

With a regular grip (both pinkies on the bar and a more narrower hand placement), the best I could do was 340 lb. That was like an obstacle that I couldn't overcome because the pain held me back.

I have seen Jamie Lewis from ChAoS & PAIN use the reverse grip bench press (here's an article he wrote on the RGBP btw), and recall reading that he did this because of shoulder issues he had himself (or something like that).

Well, figured I might as well give it a shot because a regular bench press was going nowhere.

I switched over to the reverse grip bench press on October 1, 2012.

At first benching with a backward grip was awkward. Unracking was strange, and I wasn't accustomed to the pressure of the bar on my palms while holding the bar backwards. The first time doing it, I only got up to LMAO2PLATE (230 lb) for 2 reps. And I still experienced a bit of pain.

I stuck with it though.

It took me about 3 weeks to really get the hang of the reverse grip bench press. I ended up benching 330 lb (10 lb away from my max) in just 3 weeks of starting the reverse grip.

And it has been steadily increasing since. At the time of writing this, my 1RM is 390 lb.

Since I don't experience pain with the reverse grip, I can bench frequently (currently twice a week) and heavily, and have been making gainz since.

If you want to see some more videos of me doing the reverse grip bench press, just go here.

UPDATE: If you want to learn how to perform the reverse grip bench press, read this article I wrote for T-Nation.

Differences Between A Regular Bench Press And The Reverse Grip Bench Press

Here's a few bullet points describing some of the things that are different with the reverse grip bench press:

  • Bar touches lower on body. For me, it's below the sternum.
  • Cannot flare out the elbows (at least not much). So if the bar drifts towards the head, it's difficult to maintain/regain control because you can't flare the elbows out and get the elbows under the bar.
  • Elbows naturally tuck in (ie move towards the side of the body), so I didn't need to force myself to tuck in the elbows. I do find that if I try to force my elbows to touch the side of my body, I can feel the contraction in my lats.
  • Need to focus on pushing "down" or "out" towards my abdomen or feet.
  • Bar cannot be allowed to drift backwards (towards the head) or else you'll lose control of the bar.
  • Grip on the bar can range from 100% supinated (so that the palms are inline with the bar) to something that's almost a parallel grip (actually more like a V-grip). I find that if I'm struggling with a weight during the reverse grip (either 1RM or the last few reps of a multi-rep set), my palms will start to rotate towards each other, probably as a result of trying to flare my elbows out.
  • It's a little more difficult to control the bar, so this should be done inside of a power rack with safeties to save your life in case the bar decides to move above your neck.

MRW When I See Someone Else Do The Reverse Grip Bench Press

Every so often I see a video of someone doing the reverse grip bench press. I like to think that I had some part in inspiring them to bench press with a backwards grip, but I'm not really sure.

In any case, here's my reaction(s):

Chow Yun Fat Thumbs Up

Jackie Chan Thumbs Up

Bruce Lee Thumbs Up

Conclusion

So if you're experiencing shoulder pain and/or forearm pain from regular grip bench presses, try out the reverse grip. It allowed me to bench heavy twice a week without going through the pain I had with a conventional grip, and allowed me to break through a plateau once limited by pain.

The reverse grip bench press works for me, works for other people I've come across online, and it could work for you too.

Dragon Flag

  • 5

Foam Rolling

Ab Wheel

  • 6

Band Pull Aparts

Shoulder Dislocations

  • 10

L-Sit Chin Ups

Rogue Cannonballs.

  • Body weight (~200 lb): 6

Front Squat

Beltless up to 280 lb.

Paused up to 330 lb.

Paused again at 280  lb.

  • 45 lb: 10
  • 140 lb: 5
  • 230 lb: 3
  • 280 lb: 1
  • 330 lb: 1
  • 370 lb: 1
  • 395 lb: X
    • Close, but bar rolled off my shoulders :/
  • 400 lb: X
    • Gah
  • 285 lb: 3,3,3,3,3
    • Paused.
    • +2.5 lb from last week.3 sets instead of 5.

High Bar Squat

  • 285 lb: 15
    • Drop set. Performed after last set of front squats.

Clean & Press

My "cleans" are really muscle cleans.

  • 45 lb: 10
  • 100 lb: 5
  • 140 lb: 3
  • 165 lb: 3
  • 190 lb: 3

Putting away plates from the previous day became a part of my warm up.

500 lb

Dragon Flag

  • 5

Foam Rolling

Ab Wheel

  • 6

Band Pull Aparts

Shoulder Dislocations

  • 10

L-Sit Chin Ups

With blue Fat Gripz.

  • Body weight (~200 lb): 6

Breathing Paused Low Bar Squat

Breathing paused squats up to 320 lb. Exhaled fully at the bottom, followed by 1 breath.

  • 45 lb: 10
  • 140 lb: 10
  • 230 lb: 5
  • 320 lb: 3

Paused Low Bar Squat

Belted up at 460 lb.

  • 410 lb: 1
  • 460 lb: 1

Low Bar Squat

  • 500 lb: 1
  • 400 lb: 3,3,3
    • +5 lb from last week.

High Bar Squat

  • 400 lb: 3,3,3
    • +5 lb from last week.

Low Bar Squat

  • 360 lb: 5
    • +5 lb from last week.

High Bar Squat

  • 360 lb: 8
    • +5 lb from last week.

Face Pulls

  • 70 lb: 12
  • 90 lb: 10

Reverse Grip Bench Press

Paused until work sets.

Going to skip out on doing regular grip bench presses this week. Pecs have been sore, and might be affecting me hitting PRs on Fridays.

  • 45 lb: 10
  • 140 lb: 5
  • 230 lb: 3
  • 280 lb: 1
  • 330 lb: 1
  • 370 lb: 1
    • A bit of a struggle.
  • 305 lb: 5,5,5,5,5
    • +5 lb from last week.
    • Missed on the 6th rep on the last set. Still got 5x5 though.

New toys, new squat PR, and a new injury!

New Toys

Risto Leather Wrist Wraps

Risto Leather Wrist Wraps

The velcro on my Titan RPM wrist wraps are wearing out, and my Schiek wrist wraps are falling apart so I figured I should get some leather wrist wraps and try them out. They seem more durable than the conventional wrist wraps and might even last longer. They're not legal in competitions as far as I'm aware, so I'm just going to use these during training, and then switch back to the regular wraps for pre-competition and competition training.

Rogue Cannon Balls

Rogue Cannon Balls

"My future's not gonna be determined by seven little white lotto balls. It's gonna be determined by two big black balls" - Darryl Philbin

These Rogue Cannonball Grips looked kinda interesting so I picked them up as well. The main reason is to develop grip strength while doing chin ups/pull ups.

Rogue Monster Bands

Rogue Monster Bands

I've wanted to try out some heavy partial training for a while (yes, partial squats and partial bench presses!), but I didn't like the idea of doing a partial rep and not knowing exactly how low to go. With the bench press, a lot of people do board presses, but this requires a training partner to hold some thick paddle board on your check while you bench. Also you need to buy a bunch of thick paddle boards.

For the squat, I've seen people do high box squats, but I don't want to get into box squatting (at least not at this point) because I don't want to buy a box for one exercise.

Also the problem with partial reps is that...well, it's a partial rep. I like to bury my squats and I don't think I've done partial bench presses since high school when I had no idea what I was doing even though I thought I did.

So the solution for heavy partials that made sense to me is using bands, and setting them up so they would help out at the bottom of the lift (ie. reverse bands). This way, I would still have to unrack a weight that's much higher than my 1RM, and for a fraction of the full range of motion the load would be higher than my 1RM as well. I would also be able to train with a full ROM, utilizing the bands to lower the weight at the bottom.

I picked up a couple of pair of Monster bands from Rogue to try this out.

The green bands supposedly have a resistance of 65 lb each, and the black bands are supposed to be 100 lb.

Paired up, the green bands should be 130 lb and the black bands 200 lb.

There wasn't any instructions or description in the package indicating how to achieve this level of resistance, but that's OK. I can figure it out!

At this point, I'm going to use these for reverse band squats and possibly reverse band (reverse grip) bench presses. I only want a little bit of assistance on at the bottom of the lift, and get the full load at the top.

Attaching one end of the bands at the top of my rack and the other end to the sleeves of the barbell, I discovered that the pair of green bands can't even hold up an empty bar.

For the black bands, I need to put ~35 lb of plates to the bar (so that's around 80 lb total) for the bands to stretch enough so that it just touches the safety pins in my power rack.

So the way I'm going to calculate this is that the green bands will take away roughly 45 lb at the bottom of the movement, and the black bands will take away 80 lb. For example, if I'm squatting 550 lb, and the black band takes off 80 lb when stretched, at the very least I would be squatting 470 lb. In other words, I would be squatting 550 lb at the top, and the weight would gradually lower to 470 lb in the hole.

It's not 100% accurate, but I think it's good enough. Makes sense, right?

525 lb Squat (1RM)

Got this on Friday, and 525 lb is a +5 lb PR. Felt strong during my warm up, and a 500 lb squat seemed to pop up faster than normal so I decided to try for a PR.

But not after testing out those bands first. I did a 530 lb reverse band squat (with the green bands), followed by a 550 lb reverse band squat (with the black bands). This made unracking 525 lb feel easy.

Looking back at the video, I didn't even make a squat face, so I'm pretty sure I could have done a little bit more.

Thumb Damage From Hook Grip

hook grip thumb damage

Did some hook grip mat pulls on Saturday. The pressure of the 600 lb on my thumbs combined with pressing into my thumbnail with my index finger ended up cutting the skin just below my thumbnails.

Still completed the rep, and finished off with 500 lb x 5 (with straps).

Anyway, check this out:

Stuff You Should Read

  1. Patience And Time Lead To Long Term Strength Gains, An Older Lifter's Perspective by Craig Hirota
  2. Deadlifting With T-Rex Arms by Greg Nuckols

Dragon Flags

  • 5

Foam Rolling

Ab Wheel

  • 5

Band Pull Aparts

Shoulder Dislocations

  • 10

L-Sit Chin Ups

With Rogue Cannon balls.

  • Body weight (~200 lb): 6

Breathing Paused High Bar Squat

  • 45 lb: 10
  • 140 lb: 10
  • 230 lb: 5
  • 320 lb: 3

Paused High Bar Squat

Belted up at 460 lb.

  • 410 lb: 1
  • 460 lb: 1

High Bar Squat - Reverse Bands

  • 500 lb: 1
    • Green bands.
  • 550 lb: X
    • Black bands.

High Bar Squat

  • 505 lb: X
  • 425 lb: 2
    • +5 lb from last week, but only 2 reps. Don't think I'm recovered from yesterday.

Mat Pulls

hook grip thumb damage

7 mats.

Hook grip.

Wore my Vibrams.

  • 140 lb: 10
  • 230 lb: 5
  • 320 lb: 3
  • 410 lb: 1
  • 460 lb: 1
  • 510 lb: 1
  • 550 lb: 1
  • 600 lb: X,1
    • Got it half way the first try. Pissed me off enough to make the 2nd attempt.
    • The pressure of the bar + weights along with pressing into my thumbnail with my index finger ended up cutting my thumbs.
  • 500 lb: 5
    • Straps.